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LaRouche Interview Broadcast
On Italian National Television

May 21, 2023

 
RAIUNO, the first channel of Italian National Television, broadcast a lengthy interview with Lyndon LaRouche. The interview, entitled "Anatomy of a Collapse," had been taped last January (2003), and was presented as LaRouche's reconstruction of the world economic collapse, the Eurasian Land-Bridge, and New Bretton Woods policies, as well as a critique of the Bush administration war policy.

LaRouche was presented as a world-renowned economist, on whom many try to stick more or less colorful labels, but mainly the author of the sharpest analysis so far on the financial collapse.

Here are some of the points that he made during the interview:

** - "We have come to an end of the current financial and monetary system, and at this point these people want to impose their model of world empire. Islam has become the target to start a clash of civilizations, to destroy Asia or Eurasia, before the latter succeeds in developing an alternative model to the empire. That is the target. Persons like Cheney and Rumsfeld are nothing but a reflection of these kind of monsters."

** - President Bush, LaRouche said, "is not realizing what is happening to the US economy. His attention is totally turned on the 2023 Presidential elections. He is a man of no intellectual depth; he is a man of passion, a man who uses a number of fixed expressions, charging them with a significant amount of passion. Bush is somehow like a ball kicked by the various forces present in the Administration, which make the ball spin in all directions. The hope of many in the United States, is that Secretary of State Powell wins the highest number of points and that Cheney, instead, misses them."

** - On 9/11: "My idea on 9/11," LaRouche said, "is the same one as that morning, when I got the news by watching television. It is something done by somebody inside the United States, at a high level; something which required maybe one and a half to two years planning. Since that day, the government has never produced any evidence of the real involvement of any Arab country in that attack ... my impression is that it was an operation entirely organized inside the United States, by persons who were seeking a pretext to start a war. The fact that the New York buildings had already been hit by terrorists is just a way to turn suspicions on Osama bin Laden as author and organizer of the attacks. It is not an opinion that I have developed now; it is something I said that very same day of the attacks: ‘I hope that nobody tries to raise his finger against bin Laden for what is occurring.'"

** - LaRouche explained that the current world economic crisis goes back to the turn "from a producer society, a society based on agriculture and industry, to a consumer society," which started in 1964, with the Indochina war and the Harold Wilson government in the UK. "The change is very similar to the one which occurred in ancient Rome, after the end of the second Punic war; in that case, the shift brought slavery into Italy, and brought Rome to depend from the looting of other countries."

Similarly, "starting in 1964, the United States and Great Britain, instead of boosting production, have shifted towards a policy of looting other countries. The result has been the collapse of world production. If we exclude India, China, and a few other nations, in fact, the physical product of the world has been decreasing, and therefore we are facing a collapse of the system, because the fundamental elements supporting the system do not allow a recovery. A recovery is possible only if we go back and invert that 1964 shift."

** - Asked by the interviewer to make "one of your famous economic forecasts," LaRouche answered: "There are two possibilities, and we must choose. There is nothing pre-determined; it is a choice. In Asia, Eurasia, there is a quite interesting development: China, Russia, Southeast Asia, India, Korea and Japan are oriented towards a convergence, on a greater expansion represented by what China has done with the Three Gorges Dam or with the maglev connection between the Shanghai Airport and the city of Shanghai, the Mekong development projects, and similar projects.... This is the largest market in the world; Europe is now bankrupt. To escape a hopeless bankruptcy of the Euro system, countries such as France, Germany, and Italy need larger markets. In the long term, these larger markets can be found in India, China, Southeast Asia etc., which are already important markets for Europe. Russia will play a role, as economic partner of Western Europe, through the reorganization of the Russian debt, which can be transformed into credit for industry and joint ventures between Russia and Europe. "Given these circumstances, the world can come out of the depression, on the condition, however, that there is the capacity to create a new monetary system, able to manage the problems, through long-term, 25- to 50-year investments, through technology-sharing operations rather than technology export.

"If we, in the United States, decide to reach an agreement with Europe and Asia, collaborating with Asia and Europe, freeing Africa from genocide, reconstructing central and south America and similar things ... if we succeed in reaching an agreement on these questions, we will be able to come out of the impasse, and within one generation we could count on one of the most solid economies the world has ever seen.

"If we do not do that, if we try to collect debts, like the Lombard bankers did in the 14th century, then we will sink in a new dark age. That is the situation."

The program was broadcast May 21 at about 2 AM, and it will be replayed at about 8 AM in a few weeks.

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Paid for by LaRouche in 2004

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