Question: Hi, I'm very excited about this movement. So, I find myself--not arguing, but explaining the movement to a lot of my friends, and people that are interested, and people that aren't interest, and I find myself having a lot of talks with a lot of good, smart people over the nature of man, order, goodness, and so forth. But, I also find, that in this talk, I lose a lot of these good, smart people, in these theoretical differences. But, when I stop talking about this aspect of the LaRouchie movement, and move on to the anti-fascism, anti-dictatorship, serving governments versus ruling, all around republic ideals [sic], I find that basically everyone--these are the universal principles that unite, that will unite this movement, and will push it forward.

And so, I kind of see myself--I'm kind of asking you, is that a better way to approach the LaRouchean movement, to other people, in explaining the republic ideals, that the LaRouchean movement stands for? And then, the economic application that we also are proposing?

LaRouche: I think we're doing very well. I don't think there is any, generically, better way to approach it. Because, what I'm doing, of course, is informed by a lot of experience and knowledge of history. And, particularly, on this aspect.

What you're dealing with is this: You're dealing with, again, was discussed in different forms, in other questions earlier, of this question of sensuality about belief and passion, as it applies to different kinds of ideas or thought-objects, thought-objects which apply to sense-perception, or thought-objects to universal physical principles.

What you're dealing with, is a culture, presently, in the United States, which is a self-doomed culture. That is, the prevalent values, which are generally accepted by people in the United States, if they prevail, will doom the United States, in its present form at least, to extinction. So therefore, they're not to be highly recommended. However, there's also a certain lawfulness about the way in which people are induced to change their minds, so to speak, away from the values which have betrayed them, which have failed them. And, most people are still clinging desperately, to ideas which frighten them, which fail them.

What happens then? You come along, and you say, "We want to make a change in the rules of the game"? And they become frightened. Because, they have a sense of confidence in their experience with the existing rules of the game, as they understand them. And, any change from the rules of the game, will frighten them--in most cases; sometimes it'll excite them, and say, "Hey, that's great!" But, in most cases, they'll say, "uh-uh- uh-uh."

What they will do, then, they will go to utopian ideas. They will say, "No, no, no, no, no! You can't do that. You can't do that. Public opinion will never accept it. The mass media will never let you do that!" Huh? They're wrong. But, what's the basis of the reaction? They will go to utopian ideas. "No! What you have to do, is this little change. That little change. This reform. That reform!" In other words, they're trying to patch up an automobile that's disintegrating, and assuming that if you patch up this part, or that part, or this part, somehow the automobile will keep going. It won't! It's going to disintegrate.

Now therefore, what you have to do is this: You have to take the view of--which I've always done; I've done for a long time, and it works--and that is: Tell the truth! Start with telling the truth. A very simple commission of policy: Tell the truth.  And then, they'll say, "No." Okay. Keep saying it. They'll say, "No." Keep saying it. Then reality will catch up with them, and they'll look at you--"What was that, you were saying?"

So therefore, the way to deal with this, is to say what should be said: the primary question is, what is truthful? Not what seems more successful, because most of the time, you'll get rejected by most people. But, that's all right! That's part of the process. That's part of the process: You have registered what you've said with them, as well as you could. That's the best you can do.

Do it.

Then, wait for the effect. It's like lighting a fuse on a firecracker. Light the fuse. The firecracker doesn't go off right away. Don't worry about it. It'll go off. Light the fuse; spread the idea. When people realize that the system has run out of steam, they will say, "What's the alternative?"

The danger is, that some charlatan will come along, with a utopian gimmick, as they did during the last Depression, like the bacon-and-eggs thing they had going in California, back then. Some gimmick, which sucks people into looking for solutions that don't exist. You have this thing about this, today--there's an attempt to destroy the movement among Americans of African descent, by putting forth this idea of $1 million a person, or something like that, for every descendant of a slave, on the basis of pay-back for slavery. Now, of course, that will never get through. But, it's typical of the gimmicks, which people are sucked into going along with, because they don't want to face reality.

The reality is, that the civil rights movement has been betrayed over and over, again, especially since the death of Martin Luther King. There are still people, who are largely my friends, shall we say, who are still clinging to the cause of the civil rights movement, as I understood it, as Martin Luther King expressed it back then; but, on the other hand, you have a lot of people who have become disoriented and demoralized--they've abandoned the civil rights movement, that tradition, and are looking for cheap gimmicks, which are supposed to be the "magical" solution for so-called black people, for this stuff: "A million dollars a person! Wonderful! We get that, we get everything! We're entitled to it! We're entitled to it!" They'll never get it! They'll just lose everything.

But, those gimmicks are the danger.

Stick to the truth, go with the truth. And, be patient with people. You have to keep the ideas out there. If they're not out there, they won't be able to pick them up when they need them. Keep them out there. Don't worry about it. Spread the right ideas--you're doing the right thing.

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